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color mixing for beginners
nareshdevineniDate: Wednesday, 2011 Jul 13, 05:11 | Message # 1
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people do speak about additive(RGB) and substractive mixing(CMYK)...... I often search(almost daily)..... i have found many tutorials on these topics,but they only speak in terms of color theory saying mixing additive primary colors results in white and mixing CMYK will result in black.Well we(who never took any training in a professional college and who depends up on internet paid or free resources) are suffering a lot.I dont know about others,but i wish i could mix the cmyk colors in color panel to get the colors that i m exactly looking for.Not by trail and error,when i m mixing those colors,i should be able to predict what color comes out (for example say, 50 % magenta and 40 % cyan or 20 % magenta,45 % cyan, 10 % yellow) when mixing different combinations.Sharon madam writes tutorials on vector portraits.WHile following her tutorials,she gives all the four values which when typed results in a skin tone.I wish i could type those on my own without taking her help or predifined skin tone swatches available in illustrator. To elaborate this question even more,

Unless its a color combination of directly available colors such as magenta,cyan or yellow, We often starts entering the cmyk values starting from cyan.I have entered some value of cyan,say a 53%.
as observed in the screen shot
http://www.flickr.com/photos/36096927@N07/5926043374/in/photostream

M and Y has changed their colors depending on the cyan,they seem to be predictable since i tried to understand it several times(failed anyway :D).....

http://www.flickr.com/photos/36096927@N07/5925504521/in/photostream

but when i randomly entered different values, that completly messed up everything,now from this scenario, i want to get to the skin tone color that i m thinking about,This is possible only when i master mixing patterns of those cyan,magenta and yellow.Simply i want to know which color comes out when two colors are mixed .And if i already had a color in my mind,which colors should i mix to get to that destination.
 
jaroslavDate: Friday, 2011 Jul 15, 02:55 | Message # 2
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Well, the major question is: How to mix colors? This question is complex and simple at the same time. In fact, I have never seen it in any of the tutorials. What we usually read: fill the object with red color (C = 0; M = 100; Y = 100 and K = 0) or (R = 255 G = 0 B = 0). In some tutorials we may not find the digital color values, but only its name, something like do it yourself. Can you tell the difference between two red colors, the numerical values of which I have mentioned above? Do color models differ and how? How to learn how to make bright and pure colors? How to learn how to get shades from the basic color? I also asked myself all these questions. My answers will not be of academic nature, as they are obtained in a practical way. Maybe somebody would like to correct me or convince me otherwise, I will be happy. After all, we are all learning, no matter how important we currently appear to be.

Ask me: What color is this (C = 27; M = 57; Y = 22 and K = 46)? I'll tell you, I do not know and do not want to know. Do you need to get purple color, its shades, make it bright? Let's mix! Indeed, a lot of professionals remember the numerical value of certain colors, it is because they often use them and have already memorized them, you will also remember the words that you are reading now.

1. So let's start. How to get basic colors? I adhere to practical solutions, theory does not make any sense here. For example, we need green. So what's the problem? You already have it. Click with the cursor on the CMYK Spectrum in the Color panel, and green color is ready.


Not the green color that you like? Edit the result, and here we have some prompts left for us. You can see that shifting the slider «C» to the left color is getting yellow, and shifting it to the right makes the color become green. It is hard to describe colors, but you, as well as I, can see how the color will change as a result of moving the slider.


You can see how the color is changing when you move the other sliders.

Use colors that are already there and adjust them as you wish. It makes no sense to get the color from scratch. To start mixing, you can use the CMYK Spectrum or the Swatches palette, thanks God, illustrator contains enough samples of color.


2. You got your basic color. Now how to get its darker shades? To get darker shades of the basic color, it is enough just to increase the value of K, that is to add black color. This answer is obvious. Let's see.


Do not you think that the color is somehow dirty? I'm not saying that this is not the right answer, but not in all cases, this will allow you to achieve a good result. The second method is to get the darker color of the basic color is to shift any slider, except for K, in the Color palette to the right while holding down the Shift.

The result is purer. Not dark enough? What should I do? We can see that you can increase the value of M.


3. Getting light shades of the basic color. Here you cannot add white color instead of black. Those who draw with coloring will confirm that just by adding of white lightens the color. Do you have any ideas? I got one: move any slider to the left holding down Shift.


As you can see, it works.

4. What is the difference between the color models? CMYK color model is used in printing and contains fewer colors than the RGB color model. If you create your image not for printing, use the RGB color model and colors will enjoy your eyes with its brightness. You can change the view of the Color palette, but that does not mean that you changed the color model.


To install the RGB color model (if you do not have it installed), go to File> Document Color Mode> RGB Color. It is more convenient to mix colors using CMYK of the Color palette, in other words we can say that this type of panel is very user-friendly. When the basic color or shade is obtained, the switch the type of the Color palette to RGB, adjust the color, making it brighter.

When you have enough experience, you can mix colors using the RGB type of the Color palette. All of the above mentioned methods work there as well, but maybe not so noticeably. But here, on the contrary, for a lighter shade, move the sliders to the right, holding down Shift, and to get a darker shade move the slider to the left, holding down Shift.


There is no need to follow the rules without thinking, because you can see, and you can always adjust the color by moving one slider only. It's quite a neat work, sometimes it is enough just for a minor movement to improve the results.

Well, in the end I would like to say: do not mix colors isolated from other objects. Only in a combination of the variety of objects they may come to life and take their exact location. In practice, it looks like this: before coloring objects, first, I create a background color, and then color the largest objects, gradually moving to smaller ones.

I think it would be a good experience here if you paste any raster bright image into the document and fill a few rectangles in its basic colors using an Eyedropper Tool(I). After that, fill a bunch of other rectangles, using a mix of colors in the Color palette, trying to repeat the result.


It took me 2 minutes to get this job done, what about you?
 
nareshdevineniDate: Friday, 2011 Jul 15, 03:41 | Message # 3
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Woah,quick reply :)..... thank you so much sir smile
 
jaroslavDate: Friday, 2011 Jul 15, 03:47 | Message # 4
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Ask me questions. Only in dispute born truth. smile
 
nareshdevineniDate: Friday, 2011 Jul 15, 05:48 | Message # 5
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i dont have any other questions regarding color mixing ...... but

have couple of questions on color

it becomes second part for your brief explanation of color mixing .......

as you said,we can get what ever color we want from a basic color from the color swatches palate....

but lets consider the following scenario sir,

suppose i do have a color in my mind....... lets say brown.......

we dont have our basic color swatches panel.... we only have that 360 degrees color wheel........

and brown is not there on that 360 degrees color wheel...... can i recognize the color that results in brown when shading or tint applied to it???

is there any technique for that?? or it comes with experience???
 
jaroslavDate: Friday, 2011 Jul 15, 06:04 | Message # 6
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I think that you don't need a theory. Your eyes are your best friends. I don't see any problem with the brown.

Step 1


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nareshdevineniDate: Friday, 2011 Jul 15, 07:28 | Message # 7
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thank u sir,but what if i need a more desaturated brown.... like a human skin ........ from which color should i trace that???
 
jaroslavDate: Friday, 2011 Jul 15, 07:34 | Message # 8
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Can you show me a photo of such a man? biggrin
I'll try to mix the colors for you.
 
nareshdevineniDate: Friday, 2011 Jul 15, 07:46 | Message # 9
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haha sorry for confusing question sir, but what i actually meant is

we got a highly saturated brown from red,

what if we want a desaturated brown(a little lighter brown)???

forget about the rgb panel, i am asking it from a color wheel perspective.......

Many colors exist in world,but not all of them are in color wheel.......

i m stressing on brown because,its not available on color wheel..... and in the above answer u said that it can be traced from red..... but that color is dark brown.....

what if i want a desaturated version of that brown??
 
jaroslavDate: Friday, 2011 Jul 15, 07:59 | Message # 10
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Shift + move to the right

You should always work with samples, such as photos. Even the artists are doing so. I'll show you how to do it later.
 
nareshdevineniDate: Friday, 2011 Jul 15, 08:01 | Message # 11
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oops .. sorry sir....... i missed this step from the first reply..... now i got it smile
 
saimgee123Date: Saturday, 2013 Mar 23, 08:18 | Message # 12
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I am beginner in Photoshop and graphic designing so these color mixing tips are so good and helpful for me. Thanks
 
shumicpiDate: Thursday, 2014 May 15, 04:25 | Message # 13
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You have explained the steps very clearly here. I think both the beginners and experts will be helped from this post.
 
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